type r tranny fit???

[JOHN INTEG LS]

anyone know if a type r tranny will fit a 94 integ ls?

thanks, john

[Bigkat]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JOHN INTEG LS:
anyone know if a type r tranny will fit a 94 integ ls?

thanks, john<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thats a HELL YA!!!!

[JOHN INTEG LS]

thanks bigkat, but someone told me that it will fit only a gsr. you know anyone or does anyone on this board have a type r tranny on there integ ls. but thanks bigkat.

[crimsonGS]

A friend of mine has a gsr tranny on his ls. So if the type-r fits the gsr it shouldn't be a problem.

[LSTom]

the gsr and type-r tranny WILL bolt up to an ls. however, its the r-lsd that will NOT bolt into the b18b tranny. it will bolt into a gsr as lundgren can surely attest to.

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I hate wet roads...good drivers aren't soo good anymore, and the bad ones, well...

[96IntegraRS]

FYI: copied directly from:
http://www.vtec.net/hp/hpfaq.htm

The advantage doesn't exclusively lie in the combination of non-vtec
engine with GSR tranny. The advantage solely lies in the nice gear
ratios of the GSR tranny. In other words, you don't necesarily have to
have the non-vtec motor to take advantage of the GSR ratios. They,
along with the RS/LS (94+) and Type R tranny ratios are as follows:

RS/LS GS-R Type R
3.230 3.230 3.230
1.900 1.900 2.105
1.269 1.360 1.468
0.966 1.034 1.117
0.714 0.787 0.850
FD 4.266 4.400 4.400

Let's compare the GSR and RS tranny. The first two gears are the same.
However, 3rd and 4th gear are about 7% shorter, and 5th gear is 10%
shorter ((0.787-0.714)/.714). Let us assume that the final drive is the
same for now. In 3rd, 4th, and 5th gears, you will get noticeably
improved acceleration. It's _almost_ like having 7% more torque in 3rd
and 4th at any given time (it's not _quite_ like this, and I'll get to
that in a moment) and 10% more torque in 5th. This comes at the
sacrifice of top speed in any given gear. Now, with a 7000 rpm redline,
my top speed is about 220 km/h rev limited (it's still got lots to go...
it literally 'slams' into the limiter) with the GSR tranny. Personally,
I don't need to be up that high on the race track. On my home track, I
hit about 170 km/h down the main straight. On this particular track,
I'd ideally like to increase FD to get even better acceleration at the
expense of top speed, which brings us to the next topic: FD. FD is
exactly what it says... the final reduction through the tranny before
the driveshafts. It affects all gears. The total reductions for the
gears would be the gear ratio multiplied times FD. Thus, if your engine
is at 5000 rpm, and you are in 4th gear using a GSR tranny (total
reduction of 4.4*1.034=4.55), the driveshafts would be turning at 1100
rpm (the calculated speed using 577 mm as the nominal tire diameter
would be 120 km/h, which pretty much corresponds to my speedo). FD
increases the overall ratio for all gears without affecting gear
_spacing_. Gear spacing determines how much engine speed drops between
shifts. For 2-3,3-4, and 4-5, gear spacing is very good on the GSR
tranny. However, from 1-2 the gap is a factor of 0.59. Thus, if you
shift at 7000 rpm, you'll end up at about 4100 rpm (I always seem to end
up much higher than this when I powershift ). I suspect the reason
Honda did this is to give good starting power in 1st gear in a car that
doesn't have much low end torque. Anyways, looking at the Type R
ratios, one can see that the gap between 1-2 is 1.54, which is much
better. The gaps between the other gears remain the same as on the
GSR. Honda has basically just moved gears 2-5 'closer' to 1st gear. If
we ignore 1st gear, a Type R tranny is essentially a GSR tranny with a
4.7-4.8 FD.

Now back to the issue of why improving a gear by 7% isn't quite the same
as getting 7% more torque. When you do this, the top speed in that
particular gear will be reduced and thus you'll have to shift sooner.
Thus, you'll be spending the 'extra' time that you would have been in
the lower gear with the poorer ratios in a higher gear with the better
ratios. Even though the better higher gear has better ratios, it still
won't be as good as the poorer lower gear. But overall, the effect is
improved acceleration and lap times. There is a limit though. Shifting
takes time and thus you don't want to have a zillion gears spaced 0.99
apart with an engine with a big SPIKE for it's powerband . That is
why Formula 1 and Indy cars are generally limited to 6-7 gears. Ramanan
has gone the other way by using a non-vtec tranny and GSR motor in hopes
of being able to stay in 3rd for his 1/4 mile run. With his particular
setup, that may just be the way to go for a 1/4 mile run. However, with
my 7000 rpm redline, the shorter gearing I can get the better. I have
to make 4 shifts during my 1/4 mile runs (I get into 5th), but all are
pretty quick and I'm definitely getting better times due to the gearing."

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96 Integra RS w/ JRSC 6psi, and a whole bunch of other stuff that has broken the bank.

[JOHN INTEG LS]

SO, IT'S THE R LSD THAT DON'T BOLT UP.
THANKS FOR THE INFO GUYS.

96INTEGRARS THANKS FOR THE DETAILED INFO


JOHN

[MDA]

Yeah.. my mechanic tried to slip a Type R diff into my RS and it wouldnt go...

But 96TegRS, you have to hit 5th for the 1/4 mile ? I havent taken my to the strip yet... but i thought i could finish it in 4th since it'll take me into the 170+km/h mark... no ? What's your trap speed ?

[96IntegraRS]

Lemme get back to you on that one.... I'll break out the G-Tech and see what the car runs now...

As for 4th gear 1/4 miles, I stay just barely in fourth.

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96 Integra RS w/ JRSC, Chrome hub caps with simulated rotors, "Type R" sticker", scrapin the ground, 8 inch exhaust tip, green side markers.
Phat ride with mad style.

[MDA]

OK.... Because from what i've seen... most people around hear dont break 100mph by all that much .... so i was just assuming 4th would do the trick... but as you said... just barely..